Sunday, 16 December 2018

Why Price to Book and not PE for finance companies?



Am afraid that’s not the right way either as the market cap reflects the equity while the operating profit in this case being an NBFC is driven mainly by debt, as the leverage is over 10 times. The right things to look for are P/B, growth in book over time, NIM, RoA, RoE, Cost of funds etc.
I suggest you go through this thread.

Thursday, 19 July 2018

Gold Bugs vs. Stock Market Bulls


Which is the better investment: Gold or Stocks?
It’s a battle as old as markets.
Gold Bugs and Stock Market Bulls are equally fervent about their investment of choice, often with complete disdain for the other side.
The story (since the gold standard was completely abandoned in 1971) goes something like this…
1972-1980
Gold Return: +1256%
S&P 500 Return: +97%
Narrative: Gold is the best investment in the world, and will continue to be so forever. There is hyperinflation in the U.S. and a secular stagnation in real growth. The only way to protect yourself is with Gold. And by the way: no one should own stocks.
 
Data sources for all charts/tables herein: Stockcharts.com, Bloomberg.
1981-1999
Gold Return: -51%
S&P 500 Return: +1915%
Narrative: Stocks are the greatest investment the world has ever known, and will continue to be so. The internet age has forever changed investing returns and valuations; there is no upward limit to the growth in stocks in the coming years. The only way to participate in this new golden age is to be long and strong. And by the way: no own should ever own Gold.
2000-2011
Gold Return: +443%
S&P 500 Return: +7%
Narrative: Stock investors have suffered through two 50% bear markets while Gold has more than quintupled. These are deflationary, depression-like conditions and only Gold can protect investors from what’s to come. This is especially true given the endless “money printing” by central banks. And by the way: stocks are terrible investments.
2012-2018
Gold Return: -22%
S&P 500 Return: +157%
Narrative: We’re in a Goldilocks period of low inflation and easy money. This is unbelievably bullish for stocks and very bad for Gold. This environment will continue forever. And by the way: Gold is just a pet rock.
So who wins the battle?
As we have seen in the above charts, it depends largely on the time frame you choose. In 1980, Gold was Mohammed Ali. In 1999, the S&P 500 was Rocky Marciano.
By changing the start and end date, you can frame almost any argument you want in this business.
Overall, since 1972, the S&P 500 has had a higher return (10.6% vs. 7.4% for Gold) with lower annualized volatility (15.0% vs. 19.8% for Gold).
Note: 2018 year-to-date as of July 18, 2018.
On this basis, Stock Market Bulls would say equities are the better long-term investment. Agreed, but how many equity investors would be willing to sit through an 11-year period (2000-11) with essentially no return and two 50+% drawdowns in between? Very few, just as there are very few Gold Bugs who would sit through a 19-year period (1980-1999) where their investment was cut in half.
Which is why the real winner is neither Stock Bulls nor Gold Bugs. It is the investor who can actually remain invested through tough times in a single asset class by maintaining a diversified portfolio of multiple assets: stocks, bonds, real estate, commodities, and alternative investments. Combining uncorrelated assets has been shown to reduce overall portfolio volatility and improve risk-adjusted returns.
Don’t bother trying to explain that to the Gold Bugs or the Stock Market Bulls. They both seem to have perfect foresight at all times, with the Bugs predicting another 1972-1980 and the Bulls forecasting another 1981-1999. Anything that doesn’t confirm their existing bias falls on deaf ears, especially if it means something as simple as diversifying because no one can predict the future.
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CHARLIE BILELLO, CMT

Charlie-Bilello
Charlie Bilello is the Director of Research at Pension Partners, LLC, an investment advisor that manages mutual funds and separate accounts. He is the co-author of four award-winning research papers on market anomalies and investing. Charlie is responsible for strategy development, investment research and communicating the firm’s investment themes and portfolio positioning to clients. Prior to joining Pension Partners, he was the Managing Member of Momentum Global Advisors and previously held positions as a Credit, Equity and Hedge Fund Analyst at billion dollar alternative investment firms.
Charlie holds a J.D. and M.B.A. in Finance and Accounting from Fordham University and a B.A. in Economics from Binghamton University. He is a Chartered Market Technician (CMT) and also holds the Certified Public Accountant (CPA) certificate.
In 2017, Charlie was named the StockTwits Person of the Year. He has been named by Business Insider and MarketWatch as one of the top people to follow on Twitter and his work has been featured in Barron’s, Bloomberg, and the Wall Street Journal.

Sunday, 27 May 2018

Why is ROCE often higher than ROE?

1 Answer

ROE is Net Earnings over Shareholders Equity. ROCE is Earnings before Interest and Tax over Capital Employed (Shareholders Equity plus Debt financing). Consider a zero debt situation. In this case the numerator of ROE has tax removed (and there is no interest) but the denominator will be the same (no debt) so the ROCE will be bigger. This situation persists until the amount of debt proportionally exceeds the addition of tax and interest to the numerator. My guess is this is the answer to your question in most cases.
The other possibility for a higher ROCE is where a company has a lot of cash and eliminates that from the denominator for the ROCE calculations because the cash is not financing the business, i.e. it is not employed. It is sitting in the he bank. However you can’t remove cash from an Equity calculation. It’s an important part of the equity of a business.
I would view ROCE as an indicator of the business performance where as ROE is a an indicator of the investment performance. So two businesses that are both performing to the same level may be more or less attractive to an investor based on the amount of cash or debt employed. It’s not as simple as saying that more debt is better for investors however. Debt adds risk to liquidity and cash adds opportunity (for acquisitions etc..).

Monday, 21 May 2018

The Bad Modern History of Farming